--- title: Todd Smart explores building freedom through systems description: What if the goal of building a business wasn’t just growth, but freedom? 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On this episode of The Edge, [Todd Smart](https://www.linkedin.com/in/tdsmart/), co-founder of [Bloom Growth](https://www.bloomgrowth.com/), joins Tim Leman to explore the difference between small business ownership and true entrepreneurship. Todd shares why peace and predictability are possible at any stage of life when the right people and processes are in place, how leadership teams become the ceiling for growth, and why emotional maturity matters more than strategy. 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